A-Matt
1.) "There was Joy, yes, joy. People must have thought there could be no greater torment in God's hell than that of being stranded here, on the sidewalk, among bundles, in the middle of that street under a blazing sun." Elie Wiesel pg. 16
2.) "There are a thousand and one gates allowing entry into an orchard of mystical truth. Every human being has his own gate. He must not net err and wish to enter the orchard through a gate other than his own. That would present a danger for the one entering but also for those who are already inside." Eli Wiesel pg. 5
3.) “But people not only refused to believe his tales, they refused to listen. Some even insinuated that he only wanted their pity, that he was imagining things” (7) and write your thoughts about its sad irony. -Its sad because he was a helpless man that did not want help. But too help. He was trying to save their lives giving them information that would promote them to leave. But they didn't listen and soon their consequence was made. They were too arrogant to believe him and in the end he was telling the truth and it took all of them by surprise.
B Dillon
1.) I feel that the author is saying that this is not the worst thing that could be happening we could be in hell right now be treated terribly everyday. The joy is a reference to being happy because she is still on this earth living. The author is trying to say that the people on this earth do not admire its awards in the way they should be.
2.) I feel that the author is talking about the gates of heaven and how everyone has there own. The author is also saying that if someone does not follow the rules and enters through the wrong gates then everything will go bad and it wont just affect them it will affect everyone. I feel these quotes that Matt chose were very poetic and great they really wrapped up the chapter.
Dillon
1. "The doors were nailed up; the way back was finally cut off. The world was a cattle wagon hermetically sealed." page 22
2. "'Do you see that chimney over there? See it? Do you see those flames? (Yes, we did see the flames.) Over there-that's where you're going to be taken. That's your grave, over there."
3. The Number 2 quote probably effected me the most i was thinking how could you say that to someone, the guards just did not understand the bad things they were saying. 4. Raus, Kapos, Arbeit Macht Frel, Antwerp. These words I do not understand because I have never seen them and I believe it is a different language. Matt B1.) The second quote really shocked me. As a human being I cannot imagine the fear and shock that Eli Wiesel and the others Jews were feeling. I knew that they burned them after they were dead but i did not know that they burned them alive. i finally understand how taken back the Jews were about the Nazi. I understand how they could not believe that the Nazi's would do something so cruel to other human beings. So that's why they didn't fight back when they had the chance i t imaginable. That's why they were overwhelmed because by the time they began to fight back it was already over. What surprised me the most in this book is how the Jews kept letting the Nazis gain more and more control over them. First the nazi began living with them. Second they removed the Jewish leaders, and it kept going on from there till The Nazis had complete control over them. It seemed as if the Jews were oblivious to what the Nazis had in mind which really frustrates me. He just gave me a list of words that confused him because they were in a different language so I found this sight that would reverse the language for him and translate it so he can understand http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/raus - He is a mysterious strange character/ creepy Plays a big role but no one notices how much he gives back to the community- despite being homeless he never asked for anything but he always shared his things such as wisdom. Jewish responses to the Ghettos The Jewish reaction to the Ghettos was surprising. They seemed happy that they were isolated from the rest of the world. They thought that it allowed them to express their culture the way they want to and not have to worry about different cultures or the Hungarian police. They thought it was giving them a chance to have their own government/city state. They reacted like this because they thought the Nazis were doing something good for them because they trusted them after some time of living with them. Other responses- Wyatt and Lars believed completely different about how the Nazis were treating the prisoners. They thought that telling the Jews that the human chimney would be their grave was something nice. We completely disagree, Through the whole process of getting them from the ghettos to the death camps the Jews were never really treated nicely. They were considered trash to the Nazis and should be exterminated.
Chapter 4Matt A1.) " I once saw one of them, a boy of thirteen, beat his father for not making his bed properly," Pg. 63 This quote really disturbs me. I just cant imagine beating my father for doing a simple thing as making his bed improperly. The Nazi's not only accomplished killing millions of Jews they were able to turn a lot of them against themselves which I find disturbing and cruel. 2.) One part of the book that truly affected me was when the officer of the factory beat the Jews for simply running in to him. One part in particular was when Eli's Wiesel's father was continually beaten for working too slow. But he was working the same as all the others. Watching his father being beaten was very frustrating for Eli. It caused him to hate the Nazi's and his father for not fighting back. But he was almost as mad at himself for staying silent. But it taught him that to survive you have to care for yourself and only yourself. This affected me in such a way because I think I would be shocked just like Eli to see my father being struck without my father fighting back. It would make me feel powerless and allow me to see a different side of my father I have never seen before. I was frustrated at Eli for not trying to help. But in reality what could he do? Stop all of Germany? Chapter 6and7 Matt A1.) " A small red flame...A shot....Death enveloped me, it suffocated me. It stuck to me like glue. I felt I could touch it. The idea of dying, ceasing to be, began to fascinate me. To no longer exist." pg. 86 This quote goes on for some time. But the main reason I chose this quote was because of much pain Eli was feeling that he actually wanted to die. Plus how exhausted he must be from escaping death for a whole year. In the end it is extremely hard to continue to want to live when you have experienced pain that these prisoners are experiencing. But the main thing that I find amazing about this quote is despite these thoughts about wanting to die and feeling death Eli Wiesel was still able to run. How did his body still have the strength to run after all that he went though before? 2.) " 'Meir, my little Meir! Don't you recognize me......you're killing your father....I have bread...for you too...for you too...' He collapsed. But his fist was still clutching a small crust. He wanted to raise it to his mouth. But the other threw himself on him. The old man mumbled something, groaned, and died. No-body cared." Pg. 101 Chapter 8 and 9Matt B 1.) I have to admit their is no part in this book that really affected me the most. I was affected in different ways for each one. Seeing the father being beaten and Elie Wiesel not doing anything to help his father really frustrated me but left me to think if i would do the same. The whole father son relationship really stuck out to me though. To me before they were sent to the camp it didn't seem as if Elie and his father were very close. But once they were in the concentration camp they had to depend on each other to survive and that caused their love to grow stronger. I have to say it was hard for me as a reader to just sit their and read visualizing his father calling out to him dying without anyone helping him. I saw myself as Elie watching from above as the father was beaten while still crying out to Elie. It is sad that Elie let his father down for his own survival.I wonder if Elie's soul was dead after his father's death. It seemed as if he handled it well to me. He started to care about himself making sure that he would survive. But much like Elie said, after they were liberated there was no vengeance or revenge people just started living again. 2.) My feelings at the end of this novel were mixed. I don't know whether I felt bad fr Eli that his dad died or not. IN the end his dad was bringing him down. He would take his portion of bread and soup even though he knew he was going to die. But I did feel a little empty and shocked that the next morning Eli Wiesel's father was just gone. I thought the book was very depressing but it kept me hooked throughout every chapter. I just want to know what happens between those large amounts of spaces that he left open. What really frustrated me was that if they stayed in the infirmary his father wouldn't have died. But I like the way he ended it how sudden they were free men. I think that shock and confusion that I felt as a reader kinda related to what the prisoners felt once they were liberated Dillon 8 and 9 1.This book did have parts that affected me the most and it was the father son relationships that we talked about in class and how they just broke my heart to read about what had happened. The main Father Son story that caught my eye the most was the one where the guards of the camps were handing out bread and the father got a piece before the son so the son went crazy and killed his father because he did not think he was going to get any bread. The book made me a little depressed with all of the death and bad things happening at the end. i felt bad for him because of his fathers death i was not very surprised i knew that he was going to die. “The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of beauty is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, but indifference between life and death” (Elie Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize Speech, December 1986).
Partner A and Partner B:Meet together to discuss this quote now that you know how the Holocaust shaped Elie Wiesel into who he is today. On your wiki page, record your shared understanding of what Elie Wiesel wants us to feel about indifference. We will share these in class.
After we met each other on skype Dillon and I discussed how being involved in with the holocaust really shaped his life in how he understands people. Being with people on the brink of death really allows you too see how people really are. Plus with this experience as well he knows how important love is to human beings because with the things you love gone your soul dies.
What Eli Wiesel wants us to understand about indifference is, that it is only an opinion. There is no such thing as ugliness because someone will think there is beauty in that person. What we think Eli is basically trying to say is. Indifference is important to our lives because it whats separates us humans from animals. We have opinions sometimes bad opinions sometimes good ones. Plus the want to allow someone to be beautiful, the want to love and not hate, the want to live and not die. This is what he wants us to understand about indifference.
1.) "There was Joy, yes, joy. People must have thought there could be no greater torment in God's hell than that of being stranded here, on the sidewalk, among bundles, in the middle of that street under a blazing sun." Elie Wiesel pg. 16
2.) "There are a thousand and one gates allowing entry into an orchard of mystical truth. Every human being has his own gate. He must not net err and wish to enter the orchard through a gate other than his own. That would present a danger for the one entering but also for those who are already inside." Eli Wiesel pg. 5
3.)
“But people not only refused to believe his tales, they refused to listen. Some even insinuated that he only wanted their pity, that he was imagining things” (7) and write your thoughts about its sad irony.
-Its sad because he was a helpless man that did not want help. But too help. He was trying to save their lives giving them information that would promote them to leave. But they didn't listen and soon their consequence was made. They were too arrogant to believe him and in the end he was telling the truth and it took all of them by surprise.
B Dillon
1.) I feel that the author is saying that this is not the worst thing that could be happening we could be in hell right now be treated terribly everyday. The joy is a reference to being happy because she is still on this earth living. The author is trying to say that the people on this earth do not admire its awards in the way they should be.
2.) I feel that the author is talking about the gates of heaven and how everyone has there own. The author is also saying that if someone does not follow the rules and enters through the wrong gates then everything will go bad and it wont just affect them it will affect everyone. I feel these quotes that Matt chose were very poetic and great they really wrapped up the chapter.
Dillon
1.
"The doors were nailed up; the way back was finally cut off. The world was a cattle wagon hermetically sealed." page 22
2. "'Do you see that chimney over there? See it? Do you see those flames? (Yes, we did see the flames.) Over there-that's where you're going to be taken. That's your grave, over there."
3. The Number 2 quote probably effected me the most i was thinking how could you say that to someone, the guards just did not understand the bad things they were saying.
4. Raus, Kapos, Arbeit Macht Frel, Antwerp. These words I do not understand because I have never seen them and I believe it is a different language.
Matt B1.) The second quote really shocked me. As a human being I cannot imagine the fear and shock that Eli Wiesel and the others Jews were feeling. I knew that they burned them after they were dead but i did not know that they burned them alive. i finally understand how taken back the Jews were about the Nazi. I understand how they could not believe that the Nazi's would do something so cruel to other human beings. So that's why they didn't fight back when they had the chance i t imaginable. That's why they were overwhelmed because by the time they began to fight back it was already over.
What surprised me the most in this book is how the Jews kept letting the Nazis gain more and more control over them. First the nazi began living with them. Second they removed the Jewish leaders, and it kept going on from there till The Nazis had complete control over them. It seemed as if the Jews were oblivious to what the Nazis had in mind which really frustrates me.
He just gave me a list of words that confused him because they were in a different language so I found this sight that would reverse the language for him and translate it so he can understand
http://dictionary.reverso.net/german-english/raus
- He is a mysterious strange character/ creepy Plays a big role but no one notices how much he gives back to the community- despite being homeless he never asked for anything but he always shared his things such as wisdom.
Jewish responses to the Ghettos
The Jewish reaction to the Ghettos was surprising. They seemed happy that they were isolated from the rest of the world. They thought that it allowed them to express their culture the way they want to and not have to worry about different cultures or the Hungarian police. They thought it was giving them a chance to have their own government/city state. They reacted like this because they thought the Nazis were doing something good for them because they trusted them after some time of living with them.
Other responses- Wyatt and Lars believed completely different about how the Nazis were treating the prisoners. They thought that telling the Jews that the human chimney would be their grave was something nice. We completely disagree, Through the whole process of getting them from the ghettos to the death camps the Jews were never really treated nicely. They were considered trash to the Nazis and should be exterminated.
Chapter 4Matt A1.) " I once saw one of them, a boy of thirteen, beat his father for not making his bed properly," Pg. 63 This quote really disturbs me. I just cant imagine beating my father for doing a simple thing as making his bed improperly. The Nazi's not only accomplished killing millions of Jews they were able to turn a lot of them against themselves which I find disturbing and cruel.
2.) One part of the book that truly affected me was when the officer of the factory beat the Jews for simply running in to him. One part in particular was when Eli's Wiesel's father was continually beaten for working too slow. But he was working the same as all the others. Watching his father being beaten was very frustrating for Eli. It caused him to hate the Nazi's and his father for not fighting back. But he was almost as mad at himself for staying silent. But it taught him that to survive you have to care for yourself and only yourself. This affected me in such a way because I think I would be shocked just like Eli to see my father being struck without my father fighting back. It would make me feel powerless and allow me to see a different side of my father I have never seen before. I was frustrated at Eli for not trying to help. But in reality what could he do? Stop all of Germany?
Chapter 6and7
Matt A1.) " A small red flame...A shot....Death enveloped me, it suffocated me. It stuck to me like glue. I felt I could touch it. The idea of dying, ceasing to be, began to fascinate me. To no longer exist." pg. 86 This quote goes on for some time. But the main reason I chose this quote was because of much pain Eli was feeling that he actually wanted to die. Plus how exhausted he must be from escaping death for a whole year. In the end it is extremely hard to continue to want to live when you have experienced pain that these prisoners are experiencing. But the main thing that I find amazing about this quote is despite these thoughts about wanting to die and feeling death Eli Wiesel was still able to run. How did his body still have the strength to run after all that he went though before?
2.) " 'Meir, my little Meir! Don't you recognize me......you're killing your father....I have bread...for you too...for you too...' He collapsed. But his fist was still clutching a small crust. He wanted to raise it to his mouth. But the other threw himself on him. The old man mumbled something, groaned, and died. No-body cared." Pg. 101
Chapter 8 and 9Matt B
1.) I have to admit their is no part in this book that really affected me the most. I was affected in different ways for each one. Seeing the father being beaten and Elie Wiesel not doing anything to help his father really frustrated me but left me to think if i would do the same. The whole father son relationship really stuck out to me though. To me before they were sent to the camp it didn't seem as if Elie and his father were very close. But once they were in the concentration camp they had to depend on each other to survive and that caused their love to grow stronger. I have to say it was hard for me as a reader to just sit their and read visualizing his father calling out to him dying without anyone helping him. I saw myself as Elie watching from above as the father was beaten while still crying out to Elie. It is sad that Elie let his father down for his own survival.I wonder if Elie's soul was dead after his father's death. It seemed as if he handled it well to me. He started to care about himself making sure that he would survive. But much like Elie said, after they were liberated there was no vengeance or revenge people just started living again.
2.) My feelings at the end of this novel were mixed. I don't know whether I felt bad fr Eli that his dad died or not. IN the end his dad was bringing him down. He would take his portion of bread and soup even though he knew he was going to die. But I did feel a little empty and shocked that the next morning Eli Wiesel's father was just gone. I thought the book was very depressing but it kept me hooked throughout every chapter. I just want to know what happens between those large amounts of spaces that he left open. What really frustrated me was that if they stayed in the infirmary his father wouldn't have died. But I like the way he ended it how sudden they were free men. I think that shock and confusion that I felt as a reader kinda related to what the prisoners felt once they were liberated
Dillon 8 and 9
1.This book did have parts that affected me the most and it was the father son relationships that we talked about in class and how they just broke my heart to read about what had happened. The main Father Son story that caught my eye the most was the one where the guards of the camps were handing out bread and the father got a piece before the son so the son went crazy and killed his father because he did not think he was going to get any bread. The book made me a little depressed with all of the death and bad things happening at the end. i felt bad for him because of his fathers death i was not very surprised i knew that he was going to die.
“The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of beauty is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, but indifference between life and death” (Elie Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize Speech, December 1986).
Partner A and Partner B:Meet together to discuss this quote now that you know how the Holocaust shaped Elie Wiesel into who he is today. On your wiki page, record your shared understanding of what Elie Wiesel wants us to feel about indifference. We will share these in class.
After we met each other on skype Dillon and I discussed how being involved in with the holocaust really shaped his life in how he understands people. Being with people on the brink of death really allows you too see how people really are. Plus with this experience as well he knows how important love is to human beings because with the things you love gone your soul dies.
What Eli Wiesel wants us to understand about indifference is, that it is only an opinion. There is no such thing as ugliness because someone will think there is beauty in that person. What we think Eli is basically trying to say is. Indifference is important to our lives because it whats separates us humans from animals. We have opinions sometimes bad opinions sometimes good ones. Plus the want to allow someone to be beautiful, the want to love and not hate, the want to live and not die. This is what he wants us to understand about indifference.